Showing posts with label Rebecca Stirling. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Rebecca Stirling. Show all posts

Monday, August 29, 2016

Map Monday: Europe in 1792 by Rebecca Stirling

I didn't plan this. Seriously, I did not plan to feature a another map by Rebecca Stirling set in the same timeline. It just sort of happened, so don't yell at me. Anywho, here is the map:
This is "Europe in 1792" by the aforementioned Rebecca Stirling and it is from her timeline, "The Faraway Kingdom" (which I still haven't read yet). Personally I wished I had a better name to give this map. One that more captures the alternate reality that it represents, rather than the unimaginative "continent in year" title I had to give it. For all I know, Rebecca does have a good name for it, but I couldn't find it.

Back to the map: its great. It looks like a map I would have seen in a history textbook. I like the super Romania and the Crimean Khanate that is still around (in our timeline it would cease to exist in 1783). Also, I would like to learn more about the "United Protectorate", but I guess I would need to read the timeline to do that. In summary, its an awesome map by an awesome alternate cartographer, who I think may be the first person to have back to back appearances on Map Monday (although I am too lazy to check if that statement is true).

Honorable mentions this week go out to "Socialist Federal Republics of the Danube" by Nihht, "Red Skies" by Rvbomally and Zombie Russia (the 'Ruswamp') by theSuricateProject.

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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update, a blogger for Amazing Stories, a volunteer interviewer for SFFWorld and a Sidewise Awards for Alternate History judge. When not exploring alternate timelines he enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the day when travel between parallel universes becomes a reality. You can follow him on FacebookTwitterTumblr and YouTube. Learn how you can support his alternate history projects on Patreon.

Monday, August 22, 2016

Map Monday: Carolina and Friends 1800 by Rebecca Stirling

I love maps when there is an alternate colonization of the east coast of North America. The most recent find of its kind has to be "Carolina and Friends 1800" by Map Monday veteran Rebecca Stirling:
Wow, that is a long map once you put it in blog form. Anywho, this is a map from Rebecca's "The Faraway Kingdom", which I admit I haven't read, but it appears to involve the Stuarts founding a kingdom-in-exile in North America. So I am definitely going to have to check it out because I love Stuart-oriented timelines like that.

The map itself is a well-done balkanized North America. I especially like how Rebecca doesn't use dark blues for the ocean. Its a nice touch that you see again and again in her maps that I don't think I have commented on yet. Plus it has plenty of details without being too busy.

I am little curious about why Pennsylvania is called Georgia in this timeline. I'm pretty sure Georgia in our timeline was named after the Hannoverian King George II, but why would the Stuarts name one of their provinces after those who replaced them? I don't know, maybe its explained in the timeline itself.

Honorable mentions this week go out to "Gauls Shank Rome" by Bruce Munro and the "Sovereign Republic of Nubia" by Aven.

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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update, a blogger for Amazing Stories, a volunteer interviewer for SFFWorld and a Sidewise Awards for Alternate History judge. When not exploring alternate timelines he enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the day when travel between parallel universes becomes a reality. You can follow him on FacebookTwitterTumblr and YouTube. Learn how you can support his alternate history projects on Patreon.

Wednesday, June 22, 2016

Guide to Alternate National Names

Guest post by Rebecca Stirling.
Alternate linguistics are hard, quite possibly one of the hardest things to do when making a map or a timeline. You have your map done, your borders ready, but how in the world do you come up with proper names that won’t get the thousands of viewers on the forums infuriated? Even as someone who’s made maps for a year now, it’s still really difficult to think of the proper names needed for an area. Sometimes I find myself asking, “How do these experienced mapmakers come up with such unique names, with such clear reasoning behind them?”. Hopefully, with the tips and resources I’ve laid out here, I can make that process a little bit easier for the both of us.

Step 1 - How Many Butterflies?

In this “tutorial”, I’ll try to demonstrate how to pick good names for towns, colonies, and even entire nations in your alternate history scenario. I’ll mostly be focusing on how to come up with a name for a nation, and how to adapt them colonially. The first thing to think about when making alternate colonies or nations is what your PoD, or Point of Divergence, is. Most people think of their Point of Divergence before they consider all the names of the countries, but others work their way backwards. Either way, you need to make sure that the names that you choose aren’t anachronistic. One of the major flaws from my earlier AH works was that I translated names from OTL (Our Timeline) into another language, or simply kept the names as they were. So, how do we figure out what’s gonna change? If you start diverging events before Columbus (or his equivalent) discovers America, for example, most things in the New World are probably going to be different. The names of the continents probably won’t even be the same! With a 1700’s PoD, things like the US territories and maybe even countries in South America would be completely different (and that’s not even getting into the African and Australian names!). Try to consider that when putting focus on plausible alternate history names.

Step 2 - Finding Resources

Okay cool, so now you know not to be convergent in your names! Hey… speaking of names, when are we going to get to making those? Finding resources for your alternate names is probably the most important part of all this, because without any sources you can’t, well, make the names. When looking up good source material for your place names, you’ll want to find something relevant to the area at hand. Let’s say you want an alternate Inca Empire, but the PoD is in 400 AD. Darn, the term Inca didn’t even exist back then! In such a situation where there’s no real definitive name, you’ll want to use a word from the native language of the area, something that describes the entire region like Tawantinsuyu does. In this case, Quechua probably didn’t evolve to its recorded form until European contact. Sadly, there isn’t much documentation of early Native American languages, so I normally take words from the modern day dictionaries. You’ll want to go to the search engine of your choosing, and type in something along the lines of “[LANGUAGE HERE] words”, or “[LANGUAGE HERE] dictionary”. With “bigger” Native American languages like Quechua, there’ll probably be a few pages that come up with hundreds of words each.

I’ll be giving some resources at the end of the article, feel free to skip to the end anytime if you need to use them.

After a few minutes of searching, I found the Quechua word “wasi”, meaning house/shelter (or an alternative, “wasi-nchis”, meaning “our house”). Sounds like an okay start to an alternate nation! Maybe you can use “chief” as a root, or “nation”. I tend to use words like that when making nations out of the Celts or Germanic tribes. When there’s no major identification for an area, you might need to take a descriptive word from their language and apply it to the culture. Words regarding the environment or climate might even work best, just experiment a little with names that fit well! Obviously, not all nations are named after deserts and homes, so try to pick stuff from your nation’s history to add more to your name! Have a weird Greco-Roman king named Athrymus in your TL? Maybe make a Greek colony named Athrymia! In the case of my little alt-Inca empire, Wasi-nchis is okay, but feel free to spice things up!

Step 3 - Colonial Adaptations

Once you have your dictionary of Quechua, Shawnee, or Proto-Germanic words, it might be hard to find a use for them, especially if your country is a colony. You may want to use Wasi as the name of an Incan state, but what if it comes under Spanish rule? What then? To find out how names like Wasi-nchis would be colonially adapted, one needs to look at exactly how Europeans named their colonies OTL. In short, it was rather abrasive, commonly using non-descriptive native words adopted into European languages. Sometimes, like with the town of Schenectady, New York, it might be adapted from the actual name of the settlement, as the Dutch did with the native Mohawk town of Skahnéhtati. In a case like that, the Wasi example I gave might simply be changed to sound more “Spanish”. Maybe some translators manage to find out that the word Wasi is the Quechua word for home, leading them to name the colony “Hogar”. Maybe the Spanish simply hear the phonetics of the word, spelling it with a Spanish flair. Something like “Ouasinechís” would work!

Another method would be to name the colony after something you’d hear the natives speak about in conversation, like the Quechua words for “white men”. If the Spanish don’t understand the language, they might just use anything they believe to be directed at them. The simplest method, and probably the easiest, is to take the name of an explorer and apply it to the colony (but it’s not as fun >:c). This works for any colonizing nation, be it the English, the Spanish, or even the Inca themselves. However, sometimes it can get difficult to make something “sound English”, especially if you aren’t too experienced with phonetics (much like me).

Step 4 - IPA

IPA stands for “International Phonetic Alphabet”, and it’s essentially a list of all possible letter sounds that could be made by the human mouth. Most of the sounds are used in various languages, but none use all of them. To see what all the IPA letters sound like, check out this link. Even letters you didn’t think had multiple sounds can be split up into many! The English language uses around forty of the 163 letters, varying from dialect to dialect. If you want to adapt something extremely foreign into a language like English, you might want to try translating the IPA not used in English into something that is.

To be honest, IPA doesn’t come into my naming procedures too often, unless I’m really stuck about how to get something to sound right. Normally, I tend to listen to the word out loud, and spell it out how a native English speaker would spell it. However, if you end up wanting to translate it into Spanish or some language you’re not particularly good at spelling in, it might just be less risky to translate the IPA. Sometimes it might not come out entirely right, but hopefully these tips have helped you a bit.

Addendum - Going Deeper/Practical Application

One of the largest notes to add is that there are plenty of bastardizations in my names. To give another short example: If I end up using Wicawa nunti, the Catawba word for Moon, as the root word for my English colony in Carolina, it might be difficult to find something that LOOKS English. Sure, I could translate the IPA and even write it down phonetically, but it’ll still look something like “Wicawanuntee”. Firstly, that’s far too long, and it doesn’t exactly look like a proper English colonial name. Maybe the person who named it chose not to use the exact word, choosing a word in his native language that sounded similar. Walnut and Wanunt are similar, right? Shortening it also works, going from Wicawanuntee to simply Cawanunta. Still a bit “native”, but far more realistic. Ultimately, the best names come from putting yourself in the person who chooses them. Appropriation is terrible, but it’s how colonial names were found, as sad as that is.

So yeah, that’s my quick tutorial on how to find names for things in your althistory timeline! It went more into colonies than I had hoped, and probably too Eurocentric, but hopefully it wasn’t too hard to follow! Thanks for reading, here are some language dictionaries as a reward! :D

List of Resources

Native American Languages

Ojibwe Dictionary - http://ojibwe.lib.umn.edu/

Nunavut Inuit - http://www.livingdictionary.com/index.jsp

Alaskan Haida - http://www.sealaskaheritage.org/programs/Language%20Resources/Haida_dictionary_web.pdf

Oneida - https://www.uwgb.edu/oneida/Dictionary.html

Bolivian Quechua - https://sites.google.com/site/lottphilipbolivia/Bolivian-Quechua-Dictionary

Chanka Quechua - http://talkingdictionary.swarthmore.edu/quechua_chanka/?fields=all&q=*

Mayan - http://whp.uoregon.edu/dictionaries/mayan/

Seminole - http://www.seminolewars.us/images/Seminole_Dictionary.pdf

Cherokee - http://www.cherokee.org/AboutTheNation/Language/Dikaneisdi(WordList).aspx

Apache - http://www.wusd.k12.az.us/default.aspx?name=apache.dictionary

Extinct European Languages

Proto-Celtic - http://www.wales.ac.uk/resources/documents/research/celticlanguages/englishprotocelticwordlist.pdf

Proto-Germanic - http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/arkan/pgmnlex.html

Old Norse - http://www.yorku.ca/inpar/language/English-Old_Norse.pdf

Gaulish - http://ielex.mpi.nl/language/Gaulish/

Proto-Indo-European - http://indo-european.info/dictionary-translator/, http://dnghu.org/indoeuropean.html

Databases (Multiple Languages!)

Glosbe (Short-ish dictionaries of languages NOT on Google Translate) - https://en.glosbe.com/en/

Nativelanguages.org (While the dictionaries up top all have hundreds of words for a single tribe, these have the basics for LITERALLY EVERY TRIBE) - http://www.native-languages.org/

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Rebecca Stirling is an Alternate History writer from New York. When not slacking off, she draws random shit and makes terrible maps. She’s also extremely single, probably due to the fact that she is an Alternate History writer. Check out her DeviantArt, or her newest timeline.

Monday, March 28, 2016

Map Monday: Imperio Terra by Rebecca "Upvoteanthology" Stirling and AnachronistRocketeer

Sorry for not posting a Weekly Update this week. My wife and I hosted Easter for her family at our house and I just did not have the time to string something together. I didn't, however, want to miss another Map Monday and I think you are going to like what I found for you today:
The above is "Imperio Terra" (full sized version here) and it is a collaboration between the always talented Rebecca "Upvoteanthology" Stirling and the awesomely named AnachronistRocketeer. This had been submitted to MotF 133: And Then There Were Few which required a map with the least nations as realistically possible. They must have done a good job because they actually won the contest by just one vote.

The map is good and certainly less cliched then another map of Rebecca's I featured last week (although I think the cliches were intentional). It has the light colors that she is known for and the place names are not anachronistic. It is just an all-around great map that doesn't fall into a lot of the same traps other Rome never falls timelines do.

Honorable mentions this week go out to "Democratic People's Republic of Japan" by PizzaMolecule, Bruce Munro's cover of Goliath-Maps' "Jefferson territory in the Oligocene" (description here), "The Partition of British India - 1950" by Zrew33, "Terrestrial Domains, Provinces and Protectorates of The Solar Empire" by Serafim and "Decision Time: Japan" by Krall.

Phew...what a lot of honorable mentions. Lets finish this Map Monday with a look at Mexico's proposed route for Trump's wall.

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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update, a blogger for Amazing Stories, a volunteer interviewer for SFFWorld and a Sidewise Awards for Alternate History judge. When not exploring alternate timelines he enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the day when travel between parallel universes becomes a reality. You can follow him on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. Learn how you can support his alternate history projects on Patreon.

Monday, February 29, 2016

Map Monday: 2016 Turtledove Award Nominees

Since my Flag Friday post covering the Turtledove Awards nominees for the best alternate history flag went so well, lets take a look at the best maps of 2016. You may even recognize some of the alternate cartographers from previous Map Mondays.

"Theaters of the Second Greco-Latin War" by Rebecca "Upvoteanthology" Stirling
Rebecca "Upvoteanthology" Stirling has been featured on The Update multiple times, although this map has not appeared yet on Map Monday. Shame that it didn't because I enjoy the alternate history of a Greece united by Alexander fighting an alternate Punic Wars with Rome in the place of Carthage. You can also tell by the incredible details that she put a lot of effort into this one.

"All-Indian Union" by Nanwe
In case you ever wondered what would happen if Indian history reflected the creation of the European Union, you have the "All-Indian Union" by Nanwe. This is a massive map when it was originally posted on AlternateHistory.com, which makes me wonder how the hell did I miss it. This map was even created with some help by Althistoria's James "Krall" Fitzmaurice who designed the emblem.

"Cartographic History of the Khoi-San Population of the Cape" by Alex Richards & Reagent
The above map is a collaboration between Alex Richards and Reagant, whose map "Route of Diogo de Teive's 1452 Voyage" was previously featured on Map Monday. It focuses on an alternate South Africa, but not on the antics of an expansionist white minority. Instead it and the scenario that goes with it discuss how the indigenous population and their lands decreased with time. Kudos to this map for focusing on the plight of African peoples instead of just more geopolitics.

"The continent of Europe in the year 1860" by Thande
This is a map from prolific poster Thande's timeline, "Look to the West". To be fair, I don't really think this map can compete with the other nominees. I have certainly seen worse, but it lacks the complexity and detail of the other maps. Still Thande is a veteran member of the site and the map's timeline is quite popular, so I can see why it made the cut over other maps, even if I think there may be more deserving examples out there.

"Peru-Bolivia Confederation" by Zalezsky
Zalezsky is another Map Monday alum and his "Peru-Bolivia Confederation" map is strikingly similar to his "Theocracy of Paraguay (Jesus Strikes Back)" that appeared on Map Monday. This map, however, is actually a map from our own timeline. It is a nation that no longer exists, but it could have and that is the heart of alternate history.

"The Colony of Nova Scotia" by Tsar of New Zealand
We finish with another Map Monday alum, Tsar of New Zealand, featuring a map where the South Island of New Zealand was settled by a large number of Scots. I should point that none of the nominees are maps of North America and its cool to see some global diversity,

Don't forget to vote for your favorite map as polls close on March 2nd.


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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update, a blogger on Amazing Stories and a Sidewise Awards for Alternate History judgeWhen not writing he works as an attorney, enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the day when travel between parallel universes becomes a reality. You can follow him on FacebookTwitter and YouTube. Learn how you can support his alternate history projects on Patreon.

Monday, November 9, 2015

Map Monday: Population Density Map of Vinland by Rebecca "Upvoteanthology" Stirling

There are two ways get featured on Map Monday. You can either make a spectacular map or you can bug me enough about it until I just surrender and put one of your maps up just to get some peace. Lucky for our next alternate cartographer, she has managed to do both.
Above is what I am calling "Population Density Map of Vinland" and it is created by Rebecca "Upvoteanthology" Stirling. Some of you may know her work from the "Historians talk about Rome all the time, but what if Ancient Egypt never fell?" and "One Way to Divide Canada: Ethnicity" articles. I have seen Rebecca hone her skills as map maker over the months I have known her and I have shared some her maps over Facebook and Twitter, but none have caught my eye enough to be featured on Map Monday...until now.

The map above is in a minimalist style that I like that I am assuming shows the population density of Norse America. Admittedly I am wondering what happened to the Great Lakes, because a maritime people like the Vikings would have probably found a way to get their ships on those bodies of water, but otherwise it is a nice looking map that inspires the mind to speculate. Good job, Rebecca...now stop asking me to put you on Map Monday! :-P

Honorable mention this week goes out to "A Kingdom Divided" by RoyalPsycho (see the scenario here).

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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update, a blogger on Amazing Stories and a Sidewise Awards for Alternate History judgeWhen not writing he works as an attorney, enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the day when travel between parallel universes becomes a reality. You can follow him on FacebookTwitter and YouTube. Learn how you can support his alternate history projects on Patreon.

Thursday, September 24, 2015

One Way to Divide Canada: Ethnicity

Guest post by Rebecca Stirling.

Around three years ago, Sir Matt Mitrovich himself promised “more maps on the balkanized North America trope”. But of course, the post this came from only covered the US. The post was about dividing the United States up by ethnicity, and I wondered what would happen to Canada (and Mexico) if the same thing happened to them. Seven months later, I saw a map of Canadian ethnicities and I remembered this. Of course, it would be a hard task, so I did it in one night and didn’t think about it again. The original map I used was this one, on DeviantArt:
This map covers the largest ethnic group of each county, but it doesn’t mean it has the majority in the region. For most Canadians of German ethnicity, their families came over to the Americas much earlier than other colonists. For the rest of Canada, it’s mostly either English or Native Americas. This is because immigration wasn’t a major source of income and population for Canada, compared to the US’ vast melting pot of immigrants and ethnicities. Most of the European population came out of colonization, which wasn’t even too strong in itself.

The native lands are sparsely populated, even though they cover a lot of land. The Northwest Territories, about the size of the Confederate States of America, only has 20,000 people. The Ungava region of Quebec, known for its curious lack of French folk, only has around 15,000. The only time that English overran these regions was during the Yukon Gold Rush, when miners came to the north in thousands. If it wasn’t so cold, then the Canadian government would probably have been able to spread the European settlements farther north. Using the map above, I decided to make a map of the countries that would come out of dividing Canada up by ethnicities. This is what I created:
Crazy, right? I mean, it’s not complete border gore. Well, maybe. It’d be pretty hard to have happen, no matter what the point of divergence. There are probably ways to have something like this happen, maybe to some degree. Instead of independent nations, they could all be provinces of some sort of a crazy Canadian Federation. Perhaps, in this TL, Canada became communist, devolving the former provinces to be based on ethnicity. Or, maybe colonial Canada had a more open government, forcing more immigration and then giving them autonomy. Maybe this world is a dystopia, with a The Man in the High Castle-type thing going on. Perhaps Nazis divided up Canada with the intention of showing the US who’s boss. Who knows? There’s a lot of stupid reasons as to why it could happen, but the truth is there’s no plausible way for it to happen.

While this map probably wouldn’t be possible, there are still many popular secessionist groups in Canada. For example, the Republic of Madawaska was a de-facto independent state for years, until it was reabsorbed into New Brunswick. The referendums in Quebec also demonstrate this and the fact that they so narrowly came close to succeeding proves that the premise of this map is slightly possible. Even so, secessionist movements sadly don’t align to be this way, making the map as invalid and implausible as nearly all the other balkanized Canada maps. If you have any more maps of a Balkanized America, makes sure to send them to Matt at ahwupdate at gmail dot com. Thanks for reading this, and have a great day!

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Rebecca Stirling is an Alternate History writer from New York. When not slacking off, she draws random shit and makes terrible maps. She’s also extremely single, probably due to the fact that she is an Alternate History writer. Check out her DeviantArt, or her newest timeline.

Thursday, June 4, 2015

Top 5 Posts from May 2015

In terms of page views, May wasn't one of our best months, but we still had a lot of great articles. Lets take a look at the Top 5:

1) The Audio File: The Drabblecast by Sam McDonald.

2) Historians talk about Rome all the time, but what if Ancient Egypt never fell? by Rebecca Stirling.

3) Map Monday: League of the Defiant by Zalezsky by Matt Mitrovich.

4) Weekly Update #190 by Matt Mitrovich.

5) Map Monday: Dutch's America by Bruce Munro and Mumby by Matt Mitrovich.

Glad to see some of guest contributors take the top spots.

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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update and a blogger on Amazing Stories. Check out his short fiction. When not writing he works as an attorney, enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the inevitable zombie apocalypse. You can follow him on Facebook or Twitter.

Thursday, May 7, 2015

Historians talk about Rome all the time, but what if Ancient Egypt never fell?

Guest post by Rebecca Stirling.
The Grand Union in 400 AD.
Egypt; now a small, nile-dependent nation on the coast of North Africa. One of the first places where mankind stretched its legs, Egypt is now a shadow of what it once was. It used to be the only world power, ruling over the nile and all of known Africa (at the time). Around 3500 BCE, Egypt was one of the first empires to form. It ruled as a major power until the 1st millennium BC, when it began to decline and was taken over by Macedonia.

In order to understand just how long Ancient Egypt would have to survive to get to the present day, we would need to first visualize how much it’s been through in the past five thousand years. From 30 BCE to 641 AD, Rome ruled over Egypt. The Sassanids would then rule over it for a decade afterwards, before it was passed to the Arabs. The Fatimids held it through the 11th century, and the Ayyubids had it after that. The Mamluks held it for 300 years, before the Ottoman Empire took it from them in the 1500s. The 1800s and 1900s were hard on Egypt, as it went through a French Occupation, British rule, and many years of strife before it finally gained independence once more in 1914.

The main thing we have to consider is if there even is a way for Ancient Egypt to survive that long. In order to keep the Romans away from their conquests, Egypt would have to have been much more powerful. However, finding a point of divergence might be a much harder task. To get Egypt powerful enough to keep out foreign invaders, we need a PoD far back enough that keeps Rome from existing entirely. In my TL on this subject (aptly entitled Grand Union), we use a divergence point from 3100 BCE, during the rule of Pharaoh Hor-Aha. If we attempt to make him much more successful, there are many things that could branch off from there. Before we go on, we must remember that we are at the beginning of civilization, and that everything after this point changes severely. Many things will be different by the time we get to the present day.

Firstly, the immediate effects will change the fate of many of the greatest empires on earth. If Macedonia manages to still form two thousand years later, it might attempt to go west (into Italy) instead of east. If it still attempts to capture Egypt and Persia, it might be completely absorbed by the much more powerful Egypt. Egypt could have expanded well into the Levant and Anatolia by this time, but they might instead have chosen to expand militarily, only focusing on internal matters. They might have outposts on the African coast, perhaps for primitive hunting or trading with Asia. Phoenicia might have never existed, and Carthage might still have existed well into the first millennium. Trade up and down the nile might cause many more African city states to form, maybe deep into the Great African Lakes and as south as OTL Tanzania. By 0 AD, definitely no people from OTL would exist, as most of the world has been affected from our point of divergence (except for the Americas, of course). Most nations from around that time period (in OTL) might not exist either.

Secondly, a more powerful Ancient Egypt would change the fate of religion entirely. Jews would probably still exist using this PoD, but their fate and lore might be much different. The Egyptians would probably take control of the Jewish Holy Land at some point, possibly kicking the Jews out and northward. They might settle in Anatolia or Arabia instead, or might scatter to places in Africa. Either way, Christianity would never form and gain a foothold in Europe. If a dark age ever happened, possibly after the collapse of a large Macedonia or Celtic Empire, there would be no Papal States or Holy Roman Empire. Germany might be more united, or might not be able to form nations until centuries later. Polytheistic religions would probably be the norm up to today, with Hinduism possibly gaining a foothold in all of Asia, and Greek and Norse religions gaining followers in Europe. The Egyptian religion would probably morph and change over time, possibly dividing into sects similar to Christianity. Judaism might be one of the most powerful religions, gaining followers only because of it’s leniency to people and their morals.

Thirdly, most (if not all) languages and cultures around the world would change entirely. For example, if Macedonia decided to go west as described in the third paragraph, anything coming from Latin origin might be crushed completely. Germanic runes, which carried Italian roots as far back as the 8th century BCE, would probably be safe due to them existing so long before Rome itself. The English language, however, full of Latin characters and root words, would not be. It would probably get influence from a more powerful Egypt or Macedonia, or might be completely based off of Germanic and Norse characters. In the Grand Union timeline that I mentioned above, we use a much more Greek-influenced version of Old English (Avƿeale Ægiπtiςc is how you say the Egyptian Empire in “Anglish”, notice the old Greek characters). Anatolia would probably be more Greek-influenced as well, due to a major lack of Islam, Arabs and Turks in general. India would probably be more fractured in its culture, possibly only being connected through the Hindu religion. The Americas might be much less civilized and ordered, due to many more African nations joining in on the exploration. Migrations would be quite weird; the Serbs might be forced northwards, while the Romans and Italians might be pushed south into Sicily and possibly Libya. The cultures of Europe would probably change the most, while Africa would be ruling over the south.

Again, most things that I’ve said above aren’t for certain. Just like how we can’t predict how the world would be if Rome survives, we can’t even come close to predicting something like this. These are only speculations, and it could tell us more about the political makeup of Egypt itself. Hope you enjoyed it!

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Rebecca Stirling is an Alternate History writer from New York. When not slacking off, she draws random shit and makes terrible maps. She’s also extremely single, probably due to the fact that she is an Alternate History writer. To read more about her work and projects, check out her profile on the Alternate History Wiki.