Showing posts with label AltHistory Wiki. Show all posts
Showing posts with label AltHistory Wiki. Show all posts

Thursday, October 8, 2015

Top 5 Posts from September 2015

A new month means another look at the top 5 most viewed articles from the month before. Enough stalling, lets see what articles stood out amongst the rest:

1) What Happens Next: Harry Turtledove's Worldwar & Colonization by Matt Mitrovich.

2) The Audio File: Escape Pod 2 by Sam McDonald.

3) Do Alternate Historians Hate Steampunk? by Matt Mitrovich.

4) Map Monday: Western Rump (or The Roman World in 771 AD) by Bruce Munro by Matt Mitrovich.

5) What the Hell Happened to the AltHistory Wiki? by Matt Mitrovich.

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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update, a blogger on Amazing Stories and a Sidewise Awards for Alternate History judge. When not writing he works as an attorney, enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the day when travel between parallel universes becomes a reality. You can follow him on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. Learn how you can support his alternate history projects on Patreon.

Friday, September 25, 2015

What the Hell Happened to the AltHistory Wiki?


From 2009 to 2011, I considered myself an active member of the AltHistory Wiki community. I was a regular contributor to "1983: Doomsday" and other timelines. I also pitched in with combating vandals and I must have made myself a big enough annoyance that someone decided it would be easier just to make me an administrator to the Wiki instead of reading the ton of messages I left on people's talk pages warning them of the damage. I took my role as administrator seriously and used my limited free time to do my best to clean up the Wiki. I helped institute new policies to govern the wiki more effectively and promoted ideas I thought would help encourage a stronger sense of community, like the Stirling Awards and revamping the way Featured Timelines were selected. I was proud of what I accomplished and of the people who followed in my footsteps.

In 2011, I retired from my post as a member of the "Brass" (the administrator rank which, besides having the power to ban members, can also grant administrative powers to other members) and eventually created Alternate History Weekly Update. At the time I said that I wanted to focus more on my own writing because I felt that managing the Wiki was distracting me from it. That, however, was only part of the reason why I left. To be frank, I was burnt out from dealing with the Wiki. As time went by, many of the people I befriended there had left and the newcomers, although many were talented writers and all-around pleasant people, had some major ego cases in their ranks. I became tired of all the arguments and the snark. I also had creative differences with the direction "1983: Doomsday" was going. It had quickly turned from a grim world of nuclear war where the United States had fallen apart while a rump-Soviet Union lived on, to an atompunk fantasy. It became clear that I needed a break.

So I left the Wiki and started blogging and the rest, as they say, is history. I eventually did return to the Wiki, but only as a lurker and I maintained that my retirement from the Time Stream Protection Task Force (or the TSPTF, which is the collective name the administrators refer to themselves as) was still in effect. I even dropped into their Chat a couple of times and was surprised not only to see that many people still remembered me, but that a lot of the new faces who I had never met knew of me. It felt good and made me happy that I had decided to return in my limited capacity.

Then things started to go downhill. I noticed that on other alternate history sites, most notably AlternateHistory.com, the AltHistory Wiki had a reputation for bad alternate history and immature users who only produced Map Games. Now I am not a fan of the Wiki's Map Games. I don't have any particular dislike for them, they just aren't for me. To be fair the Map Games didn't seem all that different from AlternateHistory.com's Shared Worlds forum, so I didn't think they had that much right to complain. That being said, yeah I read my fair share of bad alternate histories on the Wiki, but you can find those on any community. The Wiki does have good timelines (last month I featured "Winged Hands of the Reich" by SpanishSpy), but an argument can be made that the format of the Wiki means its hard to find them and bad timelines often get pushed to the front.

What I am saying is that at first I wasn't concerned about the criticisms I was hearing. The longer I lurked on the AltHistory Wiki, however, the more weight I gave to those criticisms. The aforementioned Chat had no content restrictions enforced and often would degenerate into flame wars that would spill into other parts of the Wiki. I stumbled upon a subreddit for the Wiki that actually had threads to organize attacks on specific members. While scanning some of these arguments and attacks, I even began to notice cliques forming that often spent more time harassing outsiders than discussing alternate history. Meanwhile, TSPTF members were either increasingly absent or just didn't care, sometimes even participating in these disputes by egging on the combatants. The final straw for me was seeing another spill over from a Chat fight on the TSPTF talk page referencing "penile yeast infection", gay jokes and seeming unconcern that people were using sockpuppets.

You know what this all reminds me of? The Fall of Alternia. Just like with the AltHistory Wiki, you had a divided community that was more interested in arguing about everything besides what the community was supposed to be talking about: alternate history. The AltHistory Wiki in my mind has devolved into a haven for Internet trolls that deserves its poor reputation. What is even worse is that the Wiki is suffering a brain drain. You know where I found all those people I first met when I started editing back in 2009? AlternateHistory.com. You know where I talked to SpanishSpy after he noticed I had featured his work on Timeline Thursday? AlternateHistory.com. The good writers have left and will continue to leave before everything collapses, just like with Alternia. The difference is that I don't think there is a way to delete the Wiki once it all falls apart, since the ultimate owner of the place is Wikia.

Is there a solution? Well I got a few ideas off the top of my head. First, get rid of Chat, just close it down entirely. Its a source of a lot of the fighting and the current user base has already shown they can't regulate themselves. The AltHistory Wiki needs to take a stand that they will focus solely on alternate history and not be distracted by off-topic conversations. Second, spin off the Map Games into their own separate, but affiliated, wiki. I am perhaps being unfair to the Map Gamers, but it seems to me that a lot of the major troublemakers are from that group of users. Third, find a way to highlight the good alternate histories besides the Featured Timelines and the Stirling Awards. To be honest, I have no specific ideas on how to do that, but the Wiki needs to work on repairing its reputation and doing nothing to better showcase the good is not helping. Perhaps one thing they can do immediately is purge themselves of poorly constructed timelines and their affiliated articles that haven't been edited in years. It will certainly be a start in removing the bad so people can find the good.

I would also recommend that the AltHistory Wiki start purging some of the worst trolls. I'm not going to start naming names, simply because I am not active enough in the community currently to do a fair job of it, but I am sure that if the Wiki's users thought about it they could pick some people who have been the worst of the worst. Those whose damage they cause is greater than whatever benefit they bring to the Wiki. This, and spinning off the Map Games into its separate wiki, would likely see the active user base drop significantly, but it would give the community time to return to what they do best: collaborative alternate histories. Perhaps it will also see new blood joining, who may have been scared away by the people they ran into while editing.

Finally, and this is my most important point, the community has to do this. Let me reiterate: the COMMUNITY has to do this. The TSPTF will have their role (and besides they should only be volunteers who help with the technical aspects of the wiki and NOT the sole decision makers) and leaders from outside the administrators will emerge, but the community has to do it together. The AltHistory Wiki has always been more communal in its governance than other alternate history communities, like AlternateHistory.com. That has made it unique and perhaps explain why shared universes like "1983: Doomsday" were able to thrive. If the AltHistory Wiki is going to be saved, every single active member must step up and play their role. It shouldn't just be assumed the TSPTF or someone else will take care of it.

Well now that I said all of the above I probably just alienated a good portion of my reader base. I easily could be exaggerating some of the problems the AltHistory Wiki faces and I could have been one of the reasons why it is in its current state. That being said, the Wiki still has some major problems, but there is still time to pull it back from the brink. It will take a lot of work, but I still think the AltHistory Wiki can be fixed, if the community cares enough to do it.

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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update, a blogger on Amazing Stories and a Sidewise Awards for Alternate History judge. When not writing he works as an attorney, enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the day when travel between parallel universes becomes a reality. You can follow him on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. Learn how you can support his alternate history projects on Patreon.

Thursday, August 13, 2015

Timeline Thursday: Winged Hands of the Reich by SpanishSpy

"Winged Hands of the Reich" is a silly, but enjoyably meta timeline that you can read on the AltHistory Wiki. Created by SpanishSpy, its point of divergence happened in 1940 when the Zheronians ("a fierce batlike species") arrive on Earth using their ships equipped with ISOT drives and ally themselves with Nazi Germany as part of their plan to conquer humanity. With the help of the Zheronians, the Axis powers defeat the Allies and divide the planet between themselves. With the planet under the heel of fascism, humanity begins to colonize the Solar System.

So...do you see what I meant when I said it was silly? Trust me, it gets even weirder the deeper you go into this timeline. For example, Adolf Hitler gets cybernetic enhancements and personally kills Joseph Stalin, while Charles de Gaulle becomes a space pirate. This is one of those timelines, however, that is not meant to be taken seriously. References to ASB, ISOT and other popular alternate history tropes are prevalent throughout the timeline. Take Operation Sealion, which only succeeded in this timeline because the Germans had the help of the bat-like Zheronians (and if you don't understand why that is funny then turn over your alternate historian card this instance!). In fact, discovering them all is half the fun of reading "Winged Hands of the Reich".

You can really tell SpanishSpy is a true fan of alternate history, not only from what I mentioned above, but also because of all the cameos by famous alternate historians in the timeline. Harry Turtledove, L. Sprague de Camp and Philip K. Dick are all leaders of the dissident literature movement of Pluto, a dumping ground of the Reich for undesirables (which includes not only John Birmingham, but also real life Jewish partisan Mordechai Anielewicz, who was made famous as a POV character in Turtledove's Worldwar series). S. M. Stirling, sadly, never made it to the relative safety of Pluto and was eventually captured by the Reich (a reference to his banning from AlternateHistory.com perhaps?).

To be fair, "Winged Hands of the Reich" is not without its flaws. The articles associated with the timeline are rather bare and not much work has been done since 2013. Additionally, I couldn't find any maps, flags, photos or any other original graphical content associated with the timeline, just stock images (hence why I used the image above that I found through Google instead of pulling it from the timeline). With a dedicated crew of contributors, this could become a first class ASB scenario that will make readers both laugh and think critically of the genre they love. As for now, its just junk food, which should always be consumed in moderation.

If there are any other web original timelines you would like me to review, please share in the comments below or email me at ahwupdate at gmail dot com.

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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update, a blogger on Amazing Stories and a Sidewise Awards for Alternate History judge. When not writing he works as an attorney, enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the day when travel between parallel universes becomes a reality. You can follow him on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. Learn how you can support his alternate history projects on Patreon.

Thursday, May 7, 2015

Historians talk about Rome all the time, but what if Ancient Egypt never fell?

Guest post by Rebecca Stirling.
The Grand Union in 400 AD.
Egypt; now a small, nile-dependent nation on the coast of North Africa. One of the first places where mankind stretched its legs, Egypt is now a shadow of what it once was. It used to be the only world power, ruling over the nile and all of known Africa (at the time). Around 3500 BCE, Egypt was one of the first empires to form. It ruled as a major power until the 1st millennium BC, when it began to decline and was taken over by Macedonia.

In order to understand just how long Ancient Egypt would have to survive to get to the present day, we would need to first visualize how much it’s been through in the past five thousand years. From 30 BCE to 641 AD, Rome ruled over Egypt. The Sassanids would then rule over it for a decade afterwards, before it was passed to the Arabs. The Fatimids held it through the 11th century, and the Ayyubids had it after that. The Mamluks held it for 300 years, before the Ottoman Empire took it from them in the 1500s. The 1800s and 1900s were hard on Egypt, as it went through a French Occupation, British rule, and many years of strife before it finally gained independence once more in 1914.

The main thing we have to consider is if there even is a way for Ancient Egypt to survive that long. In order to keep the Romans away from their conquests, Egypt would have to have been much more powerful. However, finding a point of divergence might be a much harder task. To get Egypt powerful enough to keep out foreign invaders, we need a PoD far back enough that keeps Rome from existing entirely. In my TL on this subject (aptly entitled Grand Union), we use a divergence point from 3100 BCE, during the rule of Pharaoh Hor-Aha. If we attempt to make him much more successful, there are many things that could branch off from there. Before we go on, we must remember that we are at the beginning of civilization, and that everything after this point changes severely. Many things will be different by the time we get to the present day.

Firstly, the immediate effects will change the fate of many of the greatest empires on earth. If Macedonia manages to still form two thousand years later, it might attempt to go west (into Italy) instead of east. If it still attempts to capture Egypt and Persia, it might be completely absorbed by the much more powerful Egypt. Egypt could have expanded well into the Levant and Anatolia by this time, but they might instead have chosen to expand militarily, only focusing on internal matters. They might have outposts on the African coast, perhaps for primitive hunting or trading with Asia. Phoenicia might have never existed, and Carthage might still have existed well into the first millennium. Trade up and down the nile might cause many more African city states to form, maybe deep into the Great African Lakes and as south as OTL Tanzania. By 0 AD, definitely no people from OTL would exist, as most of the world has been affected from our point of divergence (except for the Americas, of course). Most nations from around that time period (in OTL) might not exist either.

Secondly, a more powerful Ancient Egypt would change the fate of religion entirely. Jews would probably still exist using this PoD, but their fate and lore might be much different. The Egyptians would probably take control of the Jewish Holy Land at some point, possibly kicking the Jews out and northward. They might settle in Anatolia or Arabia instead, or might scatter to places in Africa. Either way, Christianity would never form and gain a foothold in Europe. If a dark age ever happened, possibly after the collapse of a large Macedonia or Celtic Empire, there would be no Papal States or Holy Roman Empire. Germany might be more united, or might not be able to form nations until centuries later. Polytheistic religions would probably be the norm up to today, with Hinduism possibly gaining a foothold in all of Asia, and Greek and Norse religions gaining followers in Europe. The Egyptian religion would probably morph and change over time, possibly dividing into sects similar to Christianity. Judaism might be one of the most powerful religions, gaining followers only because of it’s leniency to people and their morals.

Thirdly, most (if not all) languages and cultures around the world would change entirely. For example, if Macedonia decided to go west as described in the third paragraph, anything coming from Latin origin might be crushed completely. Germanic runes, which carried Italian roots as far back as the 8th century BCE, would probably be safe due to them existing so long before Rome itself. The English language, however, full of Latin characters and root words, would not be. It would probably get influence from a more powerful Egypt or Macedonia, or might be completely based off of Germanic and Norse characters. In the Grand Union timeline that I mentioned above, we use a much more Greek-influenced version of Old English (Avƿeale Ægiπtiςc is how you say the Egyptian Empire in “Anglish”, notice the old Greek characters). Anatolia would probably be more Greek-influenced as well, due to a major lack of Islam, Arabs and Turks in general. India would probably be more fractured in its culture, possibly only being connected through the Hindu religion. The Americas might be much less civilized and ordered, due to many more African nations joining in on the exploration. Migrations would be quite weird; the Serbs might be forced northwards, while the Romans and Italians might be pushed south into Sicily and possibly Libya. The cultures of Europe would probably change the most, while Africa would be ruling over the south.

Again, most things that I’ve said above aren’t for certain. Just like how we can’t predict how the world would be if Rome survives, we can’t even come close to predicting something like this. These are only speculations, and it could tell us more about the political makeup of Egypt itself. Hope you enjoyed it!

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Rebecca Stirling is an Alternate History writer from New York. When not slacking off, she draws random shit and makes terrible maps. She’s also extremely single, probably due to the fact that she is an Alternate History writer. To read more about her work and projects, check out her profile on the Alternate History Wiki.

Thursday, February 5, 2015

Sideways in Time Paper Update 2/5/15

So I haven't posted many of these recently for the very important reason that I have been too busy writing the damn paper. In fact I completely lost track of all the new research I have been doing so there is not much to report accept for these three points below:
  • I forgot about this article in The Independent that discussed Wikia as the future of fandom. They actually mentioned the AltHistory Wiki and referenced the timelines "1983: Doomsday" and "Hail Might Joan".
  • Thanks to Evelyn Leeper for finding me a copy of Matthew Schneider-Mayerson's "What Almost Was: The Politics of the Contemporary Alternate History Novel" along with some interesting commentary from Steven H Silver. Funny enough Matthew actually emailed me shortly thereafter with another copy so it seemed like I was destined to read this article. Although far from the subject of his paper, Matthew had a lot of intriguing things to say on the online community that I plan to reference in my work.
  • Found this great article on the Sidewise Awards at the Science Fiction Awards Database. Really helped with the chronology of the Awards and the judges who participated during its run.
Now that I got that business out of the way, I am happy to report that my paper (Warping History: An Overview of Fans and Creators of Alternate History in the Internet Age) was accepted by the Sideways in Time organizers. I am going to Liverpool at the end of March and will even get a chance to spend a couple days seeing the sights in London. My wonderful father was kind enough to help me finance the trip and will be joining me to offer moral support. Dad, you have always been supportive of my dreams and I can't think of anyone better I want at my side during this journey.

Well guys not sure when the next paper update will be posted. I think I will be putting all my energy into finishing it before the conference. Expect a retrospective of the conference and maybe even an excerpt of the paper later in April. In the meantime, wish me luck!

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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update and a blogger on Amazing Stories. Check out his short fiction. When not writing he works as an attorney, enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the inevitable zombie apocalypse. You can follow him on Facebook or Twitter.

Monday, November 17, 2014

Map Monday: Map of Venus by NuclearVacuum

AlternateHistory.com is certainly the center of the alternate history community, but it is not the only gathering of alternate historians on the Internet. As some of you may know, I was long-time contributor and administrator to the AltHistory Wiki and I am pleased to feature a map from that site now:
Above is the "Map of Venus" from NuclearVacuum's Venusian Haven timeline. I haven't read much of the timeline, but from what I can gather this is a timeline where Venus develops into a planet that can support life. This leads to an alternate space race where the Soviet Union becomes the first to colonize the planet, followed by the United States and other nations.

I have always appreciated NuclearVacuum's maps for their minimalist style and "Map of Venus" is no exception. This is just a bare bones political map, but it does the job well and its probably not far off from what Venus from Stirling's The Sky People would look like in that timeline's future.

Honorable mentions this week go out to Rvbomally's Doomed to Repetition, the alternate map of Africa where it is never colonized by Europeans that is making the rounds again and the many maps of SRegan that he has gathered on deviantart. If you want to submit a map for the next Map Monday, email me at ahwupdate at gmail dot com with your map attached and a brief description in the body of the email.

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Matt Mitrovich is the founder and editor of Alternate History Weekly Update and a blogger on Amazing Stories. Check out his short fiction. When not writing he works as an attorney, enjoys life with his beautiful wife Alana and prepares for the inevitable zombie apocalypse. You can follow him on Facebook or Twitter.