tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post7918040146617374997..comments2024-03-11T06:48:32.094-05:00Comments on Alternate History Weekly Update: A World Without 9/11Mitrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12415640801753049329noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-64651731934782368902017-08-23T22:31:31.678-05:002017-08-23T22:31:31.678-05:00While the Tea Party I don't think would've...While the Tea Party I don't think would've risen, some form of the Occupy Wallstreet movement still would've occurred as a result of the 2008 Recession. <br /><br />While Bush II would be seen as a tame lame-duck, his half-assed response to Hurricane Katrina and then the factors of the 08 Recession would probably swing things over to the Democrats, though which one, I'm not sure. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-7737204623693418472013-09-16T13:21:14.880-05:002013-09-16T13:21:14.880-05:00I feel you forgot to mention if Star Trek Enterpri...I feel you forgot to mention if Star Trek Enterprise would continue its planned 7 seasons or stop at four or even go on to something like 10 seasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-19299708832605116062013-07-16T05:21:30.286-05:002013-07-16T05:21:30.286-05:00Here is a link to a form post about airport friski...Here is a link to a form post about airport frisking procedures in the late 90s. <br /><br />http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airliners.net%2Faviation-forums%2Fgeneral_aviation%2Fread.main%2F49372%2F&ei=xxzlUZXnG-LqiQLgz4BQ&usg=AFQjCNHiaOWc6qLgC29D3xr8A4jjy3CKGQ&sig2=cdhJ4-7OQgFogq7BqNUj9g&bvm=bv.48705608,d.cGE<br /><br />Ummmm that didn't work out so I'll try a different way.<br /><br /><br />http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/49372/<br /><br />Here is the first post. Hello.<br /><br />Following the Diana Ross fiasco at Heathrow recently, I got to thinking, why do airports have different procedures.<br /><br />Some just let your drift through their security cage, even if the alarm goes off they usually just ask if you are carrying anything containing metal. Others stop and search you. Some using metal detectors and others (as with Diana Ross) phsyically search you.<br /><br />A friend of mine who was passing through Cairo a while back was asked to remove his shoes and empty all his pockets, right there in the queue. Surely a search of this kind should be carried out in private.<br /><br />What do you think about the procedure some airports adopt? And has anybody here experienced this kind of treatment.<br /><br />As Diana Ross said "I have travelled through every major airport in the world, and never have I been treated so badly"<br /><br />What do you think?<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />B-707<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Here is another one about a history of cockpit intrusions done by drunk and rowdy people where in some cases the pilots defending themselves got injured.<br /><br /><br />http://www.avweb.com/news/safety/182982-1.html<br /><br />Here is the first two. July 27, 1997:<br /><br /> A woman who was apparently suffering from a panic attack kicked open the cockpit door of a Northwest Airlink flight from Iowa to Minneapolis-St. Paul. Although she was quickly restrained by a cabin crewmember and passenger, the pilots returned to their point of departure due to the disruption in their ability to concentrate.<br /><br />And the 2nd preview. <br /><br /> November 25, 1997: A drunken passenger entered the cockpit of a Cathay Pacific flight on its approach to Bangkok, Thailand. Passengers and crew restrained and removed the passenger before he could do harm. Up until this time, it had been Cathay Pacific's policy to keep the cockpit door unlocked during cruise so flight attendants would not be inconvenienced when needing to gain entry. (You think this would have been a heads-up, wouldn't you?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-20937144516643297062013-07-16T05:17:53.057-05:002013-07-16T05:17:53.057-05:00Airport security without 9/11 would've still i...Airport security without 9/11 would've still increased from smaller events like the failed underwear bombing and the liquid bombing attempts which people would still be taking their shoes off however security would still be privatized as people were not shell shocked.<br /><br />The government made these bad decisions usually in the middle of the night when we were all sleeping or when something else was distracting the majority of the public from speaking out.<br /><br />The US government is pretty clever that way to sneak bad things in both Republicans and Democrats alike though worse on the Democrat side and would've tried a push for regulated security due to the underwear bombing incident. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-72452883332822735932013-07-16T05:11:11.798-05:002013-07-16T05:11:11.798-05:00Another thing that would've been different is
...Another thing that would've been different is<br />Bush would've likely after much pressure opened up drilling for oil bringing gas prices way down as future speculators see more hope. We would not be relying on the Middle East for oil. <br /><br />Then with the extra money going back into the economy alternate technology would've actually come much sooner.<br /><br /><br />There would've also been solar panels being subsidized by the government to power companies which would make the majority of house holds have solar panels much like the Rural Electricity act in 1936.<br /><br />Contrary to popular belief it was NOT the government that brought electricity into rural areas so that cannot be used as an excuse for regulation.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-3835964909310087602013-07-16T05:10:30.483-05:002013-07-16T05:10:30.483-05:00Also there would probably be less violent video ga...Also there would probably be less violent video games as people would be less angry to the point they feel the need to stick their heads in the shit and be bitter. People would wake up and realize violent video games do NOT make them feel better in the long run as it only serves lower level energy vibes. <br /><br /><br />Violent video games since 9/11 have become more akin to training simulators almost as if the Illuminati secretly wants people to get polarized to the point that the next civil war when serious shortages of basic supplies happen it will be as bloody as possible. <br /><br />I'll save the next thing for a different post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-29266218771268536492013-06-26T22:28:43.418-05:002013-06-26T22:28:43.418-05:00I didn't know there was a scene deleted.
...I didn't know there was a scene deleted. <br /><br />Goes to show what I know as I haven't read the books though I should.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-59412286596638225522012-09-27T21:55:22.021-05:002012-09-27T21:55:22.021-05:00The West Wing began long before 9-11 so it would s...The West Wing began long before 9-11 so it would still be on the air, but with different storylines; Arnold Vinick might not have been a character as he was based on John McCain, likewise Matthew Santos who was based on Obama. Michael Moore makes a movie about Katrina instead, or maybe the collapse of Lehman Brothers.<br /><br />If Hussein stays in power and Bush is still President then there might have been a NATO action against Iraq a la Lybia. I think Bush wanted to do something about Sudan in OTL as well.<br /><br />Occupy Wall Street was a reaction to the economy so it still would have happened.<br /><br />We might see fewer superhero movies, probably Watchmen wouldn't have been made either. Dennis Miller would still be a libertarian-leaning Democrat, Bill Maher's Politically Incorrect wouldn't have been canceled. Likewise Fox News probably wouldn't be as popular and Geraldo Rivera might have stayed at NBC.WestVirginiaRebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14129174334939968181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-53212332699882643762011-09-21T19:34:48.012-05:002011-09-21T19:34:48.012-05:00Well there was some debate that LOTR was party suc...Well there was some debate that LOTR was party successful because people wanted to escape the horrors of the post-9/11 world. The LOTR universe of the films is very black and white, without the complicated issues of our own world. That is probably why Faramir's speech to Frodo in the second film was deleted, the one where he lectures Frodo about how not all of the followers of Sauron are evil.Mitrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12415640801753049329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-37547992755725948022011-09-19T11:22:42.899-05:002011-09-19T11:22:42.899-05:00Also, why would the Lord of the Rings films be les...Also, why would the Lord of the Rings films be less popular?Korsgaardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443395238567257553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-21774448878125443402011-09-12T10:57:57.187-05:002011-09-12T10:57:57.187-05:00Barack Obama was very much the product of the Chic...Barack Obama was very much the product of the Chicago political machine, his rise to US Senator an orchestrated event to bring a prepared candidate to Washington. The primary was apparently managed in such a way to guarantee Obama's success, and then the Tribune proactively dug up dirt on Republican Jack Ryan which forced him to resign, assuring confusion and a sure victory.<br /><br />Without the invasion of Iraq, Obama would not have had as good a platform to rise to prominence as an "Anti-Bush" candidate, and perhaps would not have been invited to speak at the Democratic Convention. However, the very fact that he won his seat in the Senate might have been enough to get the attention he needed. However, he would most certainly not have had the leverage to beat Hillary Clinton.Henry Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406453326478697049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-2347379132086202512011-09-12T01:10:28.881-05:002011-09-12T01:10:28.881-05:00True, but he would likely not be anyone of any rep...True, but he would likely not be anyone of any reputiation nationwide. He would not speak at the 2004 Democratic Convention, and would not get any sort of large-scale support in the 2008 run for the Democratic nomination, likely getting pegged at the Jessie Jackson/Al Sharpton for the primaries. Which means Hillary likely gets the nomination, as Edwards would likely see his career butterflied away too.Korsgaardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443395238567257553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-59862407027153733882011-09-11T19:29:28.779-05:002011-09-11T19:29:28.779-05:00I still think he may have been elected to be a Sen...I still think he may have been elected to be a Senator from Illinois. I do not believe the butterflies of the POD would blow that possibility away. I like to think I know something about my home state's politics :-)Mitrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12415640801753049329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080248961176338496.post-18105216588710552642011-09-11T16:34:19.848-05:002011-09-11T16:34:19.848-05:00Barack Obama would never have gotten the President...Barack Obama would never have gotten the Presidential nomination it all, the big reason he became popular was he was against the Iraq War and unlike his Democratic collegues, had not been in Congress to vote for it. In all likelyhood, he'd be lucky to even be a SenatorKorsgaardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443395238567257553noreply@blogger.com